Monday, 9 May 2011

Episode 20 Discussion Post 63

With doubt still surrounding the tragedy at the White House, Sterling encounters an unlikely ally in Simon, who risks his life to return with a possible antidote. Against the wishes of Chief of Staff Richard Peel, Jarvis authorizes an air strike to neutralize them.

Sophia continues on her plan to exterminate the human race, now with the help of an unwitting accomplice — Leila. Meanwhile Sean and Vicky try to prevent the deaths of many thousands of innocent people.


Episode Title = "One Will Live, One Will Die"

63 comments:

Zort70 said...

First ! - I know unfair advantage :-)

Enjoy the new episode tonight, I look forward to reading the discussion tomorrow.

maven said...

Dang it, Zort! :)

Hope this holds my interest...quickly fading.

Black Swan said...

third!

Black Swan said...

and more importantly, FOURTH! (a Lost number..hehehe)

This show has such potential with the story-line. I decided not to spoil myself this time by reading the post.

Let's hope for a great episode! (I really hate that they killed off Dempsey)

SG_Tess said...

Hi guys. I'm lagging behind as usual.

Black Swan said...

Hi Sayid'sgirl! You have a laggy behind? I can totally relate to that, LOL.

Black Swan said...

Oh, and I hope you had a lovely Mother's Day weekend, girls!

SG_Tess said...

lol yes it's been lagging for years.
Yes very nice Mother's day.

maven said...

Thanks, BS. Very lovely Mother's Day (though celebrated Sat. nite).

Enjoy the show!

Just Thinking said...

Hellos- sent an email to NBC-so we'll see.

SG_Tess said...

Sophia has a choke hold on him. Doesn't she.

SG_Tess said...

Hi JT
I sent one too.

SG_Tess said...

You were right Swan.

Just Thinking said...

So half immune Layla is what they want?

SG_Tess said...

JT
Looks like it. She'd stay alive long enough to spread it.

Black Swan said...

yep, SG.. Gosh, I hate it when I can call something before it happens on a tv show. (couldn't do it with Lost). I still could be wrong?

SG_Tess said...

That was a cool move.

Black Swan said...

clever..

Black Swan said...

Jarvis is such a weenie.

SG_Tess said...

It about time for Jarvis to weenie out and betray Sophia. I wonder if he'll have the nerve.

Just Thinking said...

Maybe when the mall people die he'll cave in.

Black Swan said...

He doesn't look like he's got the guts, IMO.

SG_Tess said...

I hope she's setting him up.

Just Thinking said...

My thought too SG.

Black Swan said...

who? sophia?

SG_Tess said...

I hope Christina is setting up Jarvis.

Black Swan said...

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

nice!

Black Swan said...

hubby thinks the same, SG

Black Swan said...

Sophia is starting to remind me of Ben, LOL

Black Swan said...

This is upsetting. That mall looks just like the one i go to.

SG_Tess said...

NO!

SG_Tess said...

Mutiny

Black Swan said...

Much worse than a weenie...

SG_Tess said...

i just thought of the title of this episode. :(

SG_Tess said...

A murderous coward.

Just Thinking said...

No, they wouldn't get rid of Simon & Sterling like that. Bad storytelling. No purpose.

SG_Tess said...

She's releasing it on the train. I think.

SG_Tess said...

I guess not.

SG_Tess said...

Oh I guess so.

SG_Tess said...

She has the antidote.

Just Thinking said...

There we go- Simon in the gift shop.

SG_Tess said...

Yay!

Just Thinking said...

Can we discuss next epps promo?

SG_Tess said...

I don't mind.

Just Thinking said...

Well, most interesting thing- "We were here first"

Black Swan said...

I don't like that they felt they had to dumb it down for us, showing us what happened with the vial and the flowers (as if we didn't already have that figured out). I'm finding this show to be totally depressing and somewhat predictable. bah

SG_Tess said...

lol I must be dumb then. I didn't see Simon. I wondered why you posted that. I'm hoping I missed it while typing. :)

Just Thinking said...

Saw him from the back when she went in first time.

I think they did a revamp during hiatus to make it a bit simpler. Maybe so many people multitask while watching, they don't expect them to pay complete attention anymore.

Black Swan said...

Sorry, SG. I was just disappointed because as soon as we figured out Christina was fooling Jarvis, then the rest was obvious (to me).

I heard about the revamp to make it simpler. Seems people were getting too confused with all the flash-backs. 'Course, us Lost fans were used to that, LOL.

I still miss Lost. :) Almost the one year anniversary of 'The End'

SG_Tess said...

Nah I was just kidding around. I didn't even see her go into the gift shop. I was probably typing or reading.

I hadn't heard they'd made it simpler over the hiatus. I knew they took out the flash backs because people were annoyed or confused by them.

I never got that. I didn't find them hard to follow. Or get lost in the timeline.

Black Swan said...

We don't get Lost (we just wish we still did, LOL)

Just Thinking said...

You think maybe the time travel angle is true? "Aliens" from future Earth, coming back to the past, because the Sun is dying? They were here first as our ancestors.

Black Swan said...

Yes, that's what I'm thinking, JT.

With all the hints at Dempsey's office about the fossils, etc, it makes sense too.

Sophia's ppl are immune to the virus. We should be asking why. Did they already survive something like this so the antibodies are in their blood already? Or did they all get a vaccine for such a plague because they knew they'd have to survive it again?

maven said...

Just finished watching...and like you guys I'm finding this very predictable. I can actually play FB games while watching (couldn't do that with LOST)!

The only thing that intrigues me is how Dempsey (and his people) are tied into Sophia's people if they were here first (according to the promo). And what is Sean's real role in all this.

Black Swan: You're right to ask why Sophia's people are immune to the virus. Most likely they have been exposed in the their past.

I'm not giving up on this, but I think I'm just watching now for entertainment purposes and I don't want to think too much about it.

Just Thinking said...

Dempsey- maybe time travel cops? Maybe Sophia's group is breaking the law by coming back-and others have too in the past.

This also brings up the whole "killed my grandfather in the past" paradox- which has the "what happened happened" solution. But they're going to need Hurley and Miles to come on and explain that one!

SG_Tess said...

JT said
No, they wouldn't get rid of Simon & Sterling like that. Bad storytelling. No purpose.

I didn't think they'd kill really. Or maybe just one. I think the purpose was to show what a coward Jarvis is and how far he'll go to be important and to save his own skin.

SG_Tess said...

...kill them really...

Just Thinking said...

I guess I meant they were too important as characters to just kill in a failed attempt to do something. Not a heroic death for the heroes-so bad storytelling.

Zort70 said...

I liked the episode overall.

I think we have all been spoiled by very similar things in the past in other excellent shows.

At times this seems kind of a copycat of other things, and maybe there aren't any more different ways of telling stories. It's a shame TV companies can't trust their audiences and give them a little more credit at times.

I still want to see more though and want things to take off in an unexpected direction at some point.

Just Thinking said...

One more thought-it would fit more if the "EBEs" are colonists who went from Earth to another solar system. I think Simon said once where they were from in the Galaxy. And Thomas sent the message out into space-guess it would have had to go into the future too.Our sun isn't supposed to die for what- a billion years? By that time they would have evolved into something much less human.

So maybe former humans from a colony around another star, coming back in time to Earth.

DJ said...

There are the ancient aliens theory where supposedly the gods we know (sumerian, mid eastern) in the world, are actually aliens from other more advanced civilisations. and they somehow tinkered with the homo erectus and created the homo sapiens, "creating us in their own image" but actually utilising their creation to serve their purpose (glorify) them. I dunno if the writers of this show have read about this theory!

Just Thinking said...

DJ- Does the thoery say what happened to the "gods"? Did they melt away on the wind like Apollo in the TOS Star Trek episode?

SG_Tess said...

The Event has been officially canceled.